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PostSubject: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeTue Nov 15, 2011 5:16 am

Please help me to find the ID of these mammillaria:

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i buy it as Mammillaria san-angelensis Neutral

and this Coryphantha?

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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeTue Nov 15, 2011 11:11 am

Mammillaria san-angelensis is an old name. It has been "lumped" by Hunt into Mammillaria haageana, and considered by Reppenhagen to be synonomous with Mammillaria elegans, which itself is just a form of Mammillaria haageana. So I think the old name may have been right, but it is really Mammillaria haageana.

The Coryphantha is, I think, a young Coryphantha compacta. It is really quite difficult to identify plants before they have gained their adult spination. As you probably know, this only appears on Coryphantha plants after 5 or 6 years, maybe longer, when usually stronger spines develop, central or radial. This can change the appearnce of a young plant quite a lot. So, lots of caveats on my attept for a name here.
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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeTue Nov 15, 2011 3:21 pm

Thank You so much Crhis, as soon as the coryphantha gets bigger, i'll upload another picture

I bought the Mammillaria after seeing a video of her rescue from extinction by Mexican scientists of the Mexico's largest College (UNAM)

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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeThu Nov 24, 2011 11:20 am

M. haageana is actually very widespread. The san-angelensis form is from the central volcanic region (Pedregal), and it could well be that the video you saw related to one population being over-run by the ever increasing need for houses, roads etc around Mexico City.
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That's exactly what happened, I would like the video had subtitles so you could understand it better. I leave a picture of baby Coryphantha Octacantha. enjoy!

Greetings from Mexico City Very Happy

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Muy hermosas.

I saw C. octacantha just to the north of Pachuca in 2005. I hope to visit there again in April 2012.

Can you post a link to the video - my Spanish is poor, but I can try to understand enough.
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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeFri Nov 25, 2011 6:57 pm

It's linked in my previous message:

Youtube - Mammillaria San-Angelensis

The video talks about Tissue Culture!
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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeFri Nov 25, 2011 8:54 pm

Thought from picture it looked like M.Ruestii. Also part of the Haageana/Supertexta group.
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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeThu Dec 15, 2011 7:55 pm

I think this coryphantha is a retusa (http://www.cactuspedia.info/schede/CORYPHANTHA/Coryphantha_retusa/Coryphantha_retusa/Coryphantha_retusa.htm). Do you have a picture with flower?
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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeFri Dec 16, 2011 4:11 am

Thank You Delandmo Laughing but I think Chris is right

42 As soon as it gets a little bigger or show a flower i'll post it, I think mine has a little more straight spines


Here's a picture of a Longiflora. Enjoy it
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PostSubject: Re: One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha   One Mammillaria and one Coryphantha Icon_minitimeFri Dec 16, 2011 11:25 am

Nice M. longiflora. I was fortunate to see these in flower in Durango in April 2010, at Coneto Pass, also just off the Mex-40 some distance before El Ciudad, and again a long distance away near the Mex-16 in northern Chihuahua. They look wonderful, and your photo shows this species off to great advantage.

M.ruestii, which is one of the Supertextae series, is considered to be a synonym of M. columbiana ssp yucatanensis, and actually comes from Tegucigalpa, Honduras
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Thank You Chris
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