two questions about mammillaria

First pictures of a plant which I bought has mammillaria armilata.
If I look in mammillaria of Pilbeam I see a coplete different plant.






Second question do somebody recognize this mammillaria?
I was tincking Mammillaria decipiens subsp. camptotricha, but the flowers should be white, on this plant they are pink.





Frederik

some pictures of m.armillata...
https://mammillaria.forumotion.net/t975-mammillaria-armillata

the second plant could be mammillaria polythele ssp obconella

maurillio,

Thanks for your comments, indeed after looking at the internet the second plant is certainly a mammillaria polythele subsp. obconella.

Frederik

Hi Frederik
I had a plant that almost looked identical to this plant, if this plant has a pink flower it could be Mammillaria chionocephala as your plant is similar to mine and not too wooly.
The name on plant that i had purchased may be wrong as it happens from time to time, i hope this may give you something to go on
Cheers Arthur

I think it is possibly a form of M. Formosa.

Thanks for your comments, the first plant is certainly not mammillaria armilata.
I bought this plant from "cactuskwekerij lakerveld" in Holland, known for special mammillaria´s.
I hope it will be flowering next spring to receive a proper name.

Frederik

I had a plant that looked identical to the first two photos and it was called Mammillaria chionocephala, if it has pink flowers then i would think that it is Mammillaria chionocephala

Arthur