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Guest Guest
| Subject: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:54 am | |
| Hello, could anyone please help me with this Mammillaria? Maybe zielmaniana, but I'm not convinced. Thanks in advance! |
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Chris43 Moderator
Number of posts : 1872 Age : 81 Location : Chinnor, UK Registration date : 2008-07-16
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:10 pm | |
| I think that's a young M. sheldonii or grahamii. _________________ Chris43, moderator
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:20 pm | |
| Thanks, Chris. A friend of mine have a very similar plant, but flowers are pale pink, almost cream. Do this species (grahami or shedonii) displays a variation in flower color? (and I'm sorry I didn't introduce myself before, I'll do that in the right section soon). |
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Chris43 Moderator
Number of posts : 1872 Age : 81 Location : Chinnor, UK Registration date : 2008-07-16
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:36 pm | |
| No, I wouldn't expect a cream flower on a grahamii. There are quite a few hooked spined Mamms with cream flowers though, and at the size of your plant might look similar. _________________ Chris43, moderator
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:38 pm | |
| ok, thank you very much, Chris |
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PVV1962
Number of posts : 599 Age : 62 Location : Voznesensk, southern Ukraine Registration date : 2016-10-04
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:05 pm | |
| Good day! Let's turn our attention to the flower. The whole group of M. grahamii has a large pestle. This is a good sign. Typical for these plants. I think the photo still of zeilmanniana. With yellow spines, and the rounded petals of the flower. (But here I'm not sure.) In the store there. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:25 am | |
| Hello, PVV, thanks for taking part here. I think I didn't follow your rationale. Sorry , English is not my native language. So it is not clear to me whether you are or disagree with the proposition that this plant is a M. grahamii. Thanks a lot. |
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maurillio
Number of posts : 2988 Age : 70 Location : Modena - Italia Registration date : 2009-12-20
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:19 pm | |
| Some photo to explain PVV concept…. Mammillaria grahamii : big flowers, big petals (pestle?) in little number Mammillaria zeillmanniana: big number of petals, little flowers in big number A good suggestion for the plant that you show, could be Mammillaria variabilis…… | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:29 pm | |
| Thanks for replying.
My plant has relatively big flowers => M. grahamii group
M. variabilis => M. crinita group, the same of M. zielmaniana
I see the petals of my plant as rounded , not acuminate. Is that an important trait? All plants shown here has acuminate petals.
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PVV1962
Number of posts : 599 Age : 62 Location : Voznesensk, southern Ukraine Registration date : 2016-10-04
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:46 pm | |
| Hello! Thank you Maurillio for your help and explanation. To mmcavall. Want to reveal your previous text. In determining the type played a crucial role features are characteristic of the generative organs. Flowers, fruits, seeds. The size of the flower on Your photo medium size, about 1 cm. M. grahamii has a flower size in 2 times more. Pestle in M. grahamii longer, much projecting over the edge of the flower. These signs are enough to discard this name. Your plant does not belong to the group of M. grahamii (incl. mazatlanensis, sheldonii, swinglei). I noticed the rounded edges of the petals. So far, that no other thoughts. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Rounded petals, hooked yellow spines Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:09 pm | |
| Thank you PVV, you made it very clear now. Thank you |
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