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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeTue Jun 18, 2019 8:50 pm

It looks like it has had pink flowers, and with bristles and hairs in the axils, I am thinking it might be an interesting form of Mammillaria mystax. My concern about that diagnosis is that I have never seen such a white form of mystax, the spines, centrals especially are usually darker. It is a very variable species though...... Did you grow it from seed?

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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeWed Jun 19, 2019 6:27 am

Looks like a pretty classic geminispina with long spines to me ?!?
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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeWed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am

M. geminispina has many radial spines, 16-20 approx. This plant has much fewer, maybe 5 radials and the big central. I know spine counting is only an approximate guide, but that's a bit too few, I think.

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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeWed Jun 19, 2019 9:20 pm

thank you both Chris43 and mmartic,
The plant is not mine, it is in a pot in the garden of a GuestHouse in Galaxidi in southern Greece. It grows in an open space with lots of sun. The owners gave me 2 pups from the base. It has a stem of more than 10cm diameter, I don't know if this passes with geminispina
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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeThu Jun 20, 2019 7:05 am

Chris43 wrote:
M. geminispina has many radial spines, 16-20 approx. This plant has much fewer, maybe 5 radials and the big central. I know spine counting is only an approximate guide, but that's a bit too few, I think.
A bit too few Sad
Pitty, overall look is geminispinical Smile
There are also similarities with some karwinskiana forms, but pink flowers...
Interesting plant anyway!!!
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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeThu Jun 20, 2019 9:56 pm

I don't think it has anything to do with geminispina, to me it looks more nejapensis/karwinskiana related. The ring of flowers is also not geminispina-like, because geminispina usually flowers very sparingly. What the flower colour has been is difficult to say, the colour of dried flower remains is not a good indication in my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeThu Jun 27, 2019 3:48 pm

No not geminispina. I agree with wolter, more akin to karwinskiana. Could possibly be karwinskiana subsp. beiselii.
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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeFri Jul 05, 2019 7:23 am

Thanks delandmo, a thick spined form of karwinskiana subsp. beiselii looks like the best guess,
it branches from the base though, does this happen with any karwinskiana?
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PostSubject: Re: any idea what this big mammi is?    any idea what this big mammi is?  Icon_minitimeFri Jul 05, 2019 3:07 pm

Hi xocolati, karwinskiana will branch from the sides and/or divide dichotomously.

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