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Valentinus
Number of posts : 14 Age : 58 Location : Russia Registration date : 2018-08-25
| Subject: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:21 pm | |
| Dear colleagues, please help identify plants from Mexico. road 190 near "Tancoyol de Serra" Sierra Gorda Biosphere Reserve. Keretaro, Mexico. | |
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delandmo
Number of posts : 345 Age : 78 Location : Sutton, Surrey. Registration date : 2011-06-05
| Subject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:36 pm | |
| Possibly forms of m. magnimamma | |
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mammillariamaniac
Number of posts : 177 Age : 27 Location : Hamburg, Germany Registration date : 2016-08-19
| Subject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:29 am | |
| 1. Mam. priessnitzii? 2. 3. and 5. Mam. compressa 4. Mam. centralifera? | |
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Valentinus
Number of posts : 14 Age : 58 Location : Russia Registration date : 2018-08-25
| Subject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:45 pm | |
| Thanks Delandmo, thanks Jonathan!!! I agree with the opinion of Jonathan. I think 2-5 plants are form of M. compressa. If I understand the M. magnimamma has curved spines, no? This is M. magnimamma, yes? 27.02.2018 Near Mineral del Monte. Hidalgo, Mexico. | |
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woltertenhoeve
Number of posts : 343 Registration date : 2009-10-01
| Subject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:58 pm | |
| I would call number 1 M. priessnitzii, number 2 and 5 centralifera. Number 3 and 4 are probably also centralifera, but it looks like they have shorter spines because they grow in a less exposed position. Of course, you might consider centralifera as no more than a form of compressa. The Mineral del Monte plant I would call magnimamma. M. magnimamma often has curved spines, but I think that at some locations you can find them with nearly straight spines.
Wolter ten Hoeve. | |
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Valentinus
Number of posts : 14 Age : 58 Location : Russia Registration date : 2018-08-25
| Subject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:06 am | |
| Dear Wolter, Thanks for your reply! Probably this plant can be called M. compressa ssp. centralifera. Here is another plant from this group that I do not know, perhaps M. magnimamma? 6.03.2018 Near Santa Maria del Rio SLP, Mexico. | |
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woltertenhoeve
Number of posts : 343 Registration date : 2009-10-01
| Subject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:21 pm | |
| In Pilbeam's book M. centralifera is indeed considered a subspecies of M. compressa.
I label the plant near Santa Maria del Rio as M. saint-pieana. Reppenhagen reported it from that area, and I found similar plants in that region. I found them at the beginning of the road to Cañada de Yañez, east of Santa Maria del Rio. But M. saint-pieana is probably no more than a form of M. gigantea.
Wolter. | |
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Valentinus
Number of posts : 14 Age : 58 Location : Russia Registration date : 2018-08-25
| Subject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Tue Aug 28, 2018 8:48 pm | |
| Dear Wolter, Thanks for your ansver! You are an excellent specialist! I now regret that I did not collect this plant for my collection. | |
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