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 Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018

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Valentinus




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PostSubject: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018   Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 25, 2018 7:21 pm

Dear colleagues,
please help identify plants from Mexico.

road 190
near "Tancoyol de Serra"
Sierra Gorda Biosphere Reserve.
Keretaro, Mexico.
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018   Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Icon_minitimeSun Aug 26, 2018 10:36 pm

Possibly forms of m. magnimamma
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018   Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Icon_minitimeMon Aug 27, 2018 9:29 am

1. Mam. priessnitzii?
2. 3. and 5. Mam. compressa
4. Mam. centralifera?
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018   Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Icon_minitimeMon Aug 27, 2018 5:45 pm

Thanks Delandmo, thanks Jonathan!!!
I agree with the opinion of Jonathan.
I think 2-5 plants are form of M. compressa.
If I understand the M. magnimamma has curved spines, no?
This is M. magnimamma, yes?

27.02.2018
Near Mineral del Monte.
Hidalgo, Mexico.
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018   Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Icon_minitimeMon Aug 27, 2018 8:58 pm

I would call number 1 M. priessnitzii, number 2 and 5 centralifera. Number 3 and 4 are probably also centralifera, but it looks like they have shorter spines because they grow in a less exposed position. Of course, you might consider centralifera as no more than a form of compressa.
The Mineral del Monte plant I would call magnimamma. M. magnimamma often has curved spines, but I think that at some locations you can find them with nearly straight spines.

Wolter ten Hoeve.
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018   Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 28, 2018 10:06 am

Dear Wolter,
Thanks for your reply!
Probably this plant can be called M. compressa ssp. centralifera.

Here is another plant from this group that I do not know, perhaps M. magnimamma?

6.03.2018
Near Santa Maria del Rio
SLP, Mexico.

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In Pilbeam's book M. centralifera is indeed considered a subspecies of M. compressa.

I label the plant near Santa Maria del Rio as M. saint-pieana. Reppenhagen reported it from that area, and I found similar plants in that region. I found them at the beginning of the road to Cañada de Yañez, east of Santa Maria del Rio. But M. saint-pieana is probably no more than a form of M. gigantea.

Wolter.
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018   Mammillaria from Mexico 04 2018 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 28, 2018 8:48 pm

Dear Wolter,
Thanks for your ansver!
You are an excellent specialist!
I now regret that I did not collect this plant for my collection. Sad
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