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| Subject: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| Hy! Hardy Escobaria vivipara This plant is one of my favorite, is planted in my rockgarden: the last winter in a morning was very cold -30 but the plant was coverd by snow. Spring flowers! Here's the plant 2 weks ago (rain then ice - moust dangeros, or defrost and the next day frost, but the plant is alive and this spring i hope to see flowers again): Here is the plant in summer: And yesterday snow covered: Regards! |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:45 am | |
| Good morning punker. What a hard life! Thank you for these pictures. It's very interesting to see different aspects of a plant through seasons. |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:42 am | |
| Good morning! You can say: What a hard life! I am Happy you like This plants are adapted to this conditions. Regards! |
| | | andrejpr special poster
Number of posts : 85 Age : 77 Location : Slovenia Registration date : 2008-07-17
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:54 pm | |
| This plants it´s a Neobessea, not Escobaria! | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:58 pm | |
| Hy!...you think wrong!!!
First is NOT Neobessea is Neobesseya you forget the Y
The genus Neobesseya is now considered part of Escobaria. This genus is named for C. E. Bessey, from the University of Nebraska, at the end of the 19th century.
Escobaria vivipara Synonyms:
* Escobaria vivipara ( Basionym: Cactus viviparus Nuttall, Cat. Pl. Upper Louisiana, no. 22. 1813, Mammillaria vivipara,Echinocactus viviparus, * Escobaria neo-mexicana (Coryphantha vivipara var. neo-mexicana, Cactus radiosus var. neo-mexicanus, Mammillaria radiosa var. neo-mexicana, Coryphantha radiosa var. neo-mexicana, Cactus neo-mexicanus, Mammillaria vivipara var. neo-mexicana, Mammillaria neo-mexicana, Escobaria vivipara var. neo-mexicana, Coryphantha neo-mexicana,) * Escobaria vivipara var. radiosa (Escobaria radiosa, Neomammillaria radiosa, Mammillaria radiosa, , Coryphantha radiosa, Coryphantha vivipara var. radiosa,Cactus radiosus, Echinocactus radiosus, Mammillaria vivipara var. radiosa) * Escobaria vivipara var. rosea (Coryphantha rosea, Coryphantha vivipara var. rosea, Coryphantha vivipara var. kaibabensis, * Escobaria vivipara var. arizonica (Engelmann) W. T. Marshall (Mammillaria arizonica, Mammillaria vivipara var. arizonica, Coryphantha vivipara var. arizonica, Mammillaria radiosa var. arizonica, Escobaria arizonica, Coryphantha arizonica, Cactus radiosus var. arizonicus ) * Escobaria vivipara var. kaibabensis (C. vivipara var. kaibabensis) * Escobaria vivipara var. fragrans (Coryphantha fragrans) * Escobaria vivipara var. bisbeeana (Coryphantha bisbeeana, Escobaria bisbeeana, Coryphantha vivipara var. bisbeeana) * Escobaria vivipara var. buoflama (Coryphantha vivipara var. buoflama) * Escobaria vivipara var. columnaris (Coryphantha columnaris) * Escobaria vivipara var. marstonii (Coryphantha missouriensis var. marstonii) * Escobaria vivipara var. oklahomensis (Coryphantha oklahomensis)
I think the plant you refere is Neobesseya missouriensis synonym of Escobaria missouriensis also a hardy plant, my plant is from Mesa Garden seeds,here is the list:
http://www.mesagarden.com/re2010.html
The list of Neobesseya...considered part of Escobaria:
Neobesseya asperispina synonym of Escobaria missouriensis var. asperispina Neobesseya cubensis synonym of Escobaria cubensis Neobesseya missouriensis synonym of Escobaria missouriensis Neobesseya muehlbaueriana synonym of Escobaria emskoetteriana Neobesseya notesteinii synonym of Escobaria missouriensis Neobesseya roseiflora synonym of Escobaria missouriensis Neobesseya similis synonym of Escobaria missouriensis Neobesseya wissmannii synonym of Escobaria missouriensis Neobesseya zilziana synonym of Escobaria zilziana
And Neobesseya macdougallii synonym of Ortegocactus macdougallii (Edward Alexander)
Regards!
p.s: Escobaria vivipara was NEVER! included in the genus Neobesseya.
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| | | Chris43 Moderator
Number of posts : 1872 Age : 81 Location : Chinnor, UK Registration date : 2008-07-16
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:09 pm | |
| Escobaria is a lovely plant, and is so variable. This has given rise to all the names which Punker has listed. It can be found from Arizona (and probably into Mexico) right up into Canada. I think the form known as v. bisbeeana is one of the nicest, as it has really stout white spines. In all forms the flowers tend to be similar, which is one of the main reasons for their combination. Neobesseya contained 13 species at one time (Britton and Rose), which have all now been merged with other genera. It had become a lumping ground for some relatively difficult to categorise plants, but as more commonalities became understood, so the differences seemed less significant. _________________ Chris43, moderator
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| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:47 pm | |
| Hy Chris! - Quote :
- I think the form known as v. bisbeeana is one of the nicest
I agree with you Happy new year to you and to everyone on Mammillaria forum |
| | | agrippa
Number of posts : 58 Location : Canada Registration date : 2012-02-25
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:16 pm | |
| Hi cacti lovers! This plant should be hardy at least up to -35 C, but it depends on the stock origin. Even not covered with much snow, it is from dry locations. Has to be already compressed and dehydrated when cold begins, in November typically. This is my photo from a native location in Southern Alberta, Canada. I also transferred some plants into my back yard last year. | |
| | | agrippa
Number of posts : 58 Location : Canada Registration date : 2012-02-25
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:50 pm | |
| And some more photos of the same species at another location in Alberta. All were fond at sloped eroded hills around rivers. Please mention two small seedlings above the big plant at the second picture. | |
| | | Chris43 Moderator
Number of posts : 1872 Age : 81 Location : Chinnor, UK Registration date : 2008-07-16
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:10 pm | |
| Welcome to the Forum, and it is great to see some more Escobarias!
I've just been out to give a talk about plants I have seen in Southern Arizona, and I had seen a number of forms of E. vivpara, so slides of these were part of the talk.
I did know they grew in Canada, but have never seen photos of them - truly a species that defies all rules, with regard to distribution and hardiness.
Wonderful! _________________ Chris43, moderator
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| | | agrippa
Number of posts : 58 Location : Canada Registration date : 2012-02-25
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:14 am | |
| One more photo. Wintering of E. vivipara, one of my outdoor plants. Well, it is still deep winter here in Calgary. Will be no signs of growth or expending until May. | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:41 pm | |
| Hello all,
Your plants look awesome punker and agrippa! Seeing photos of them growing in the wild in Canada is really a privilege- thanks.
Cheers, Laszlo |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:18 pm | |
| Hello,
Today two of my Escobarias finally emerged from under the melting snow (this winter they were covered by 50 cms of snow but before that they endured quite a few cold rainfalls in December and even January). Here is what they look like. Escobaria vivipara http://www.flickr.com/photos/34150978@N08/6810822138/in/photostream/lightbox/ and Escobaria vivipara var bisbeeana http://www.flickr.com/photos/34150978@N08/6810822110/in/photostream/lightbox/ I am thrilled to see them doing well.
Laszlo |
| | | Chris43 Moderator
Number of posts : 1872 Age : 81 Location : Chinnor, UK Registration date : 2008-07-16
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:00 pm | |
| It is amazing to see the v. bisbeeana in such conditions and doing well, considering it lives in Southern Arizona. _________________ Chris43, moderator
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| | | agrippa
Number of posts : 58 Location : Canada Registration date : 2012-02-25
| Subject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:51 am | |
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