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maurillio
Number of posts : 2988 Age : 70 Location : Modena - Italia Registration date : 2009-12-20
| Subject: m.zuccariniana? Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:48 pm | |
| i thoght m.zuccariniana, but axils with bristels?? | |
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maurillio
Number of posts : 2988 Age : 70 Location : Modena - Italia Registration date : 2009-12-20
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:57 pm | |
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ento
Number of posts : 125 Age : 71 Location : Vado Ligure - Italy Registration date : 2009-12-26
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:55 pm | |
| To me belongs to m. mistax group. | |
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Chris43 Moderator
Number of posts : 1872 Age : 81 Location : Chinnor, UK Registration date : 2008-07-16
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| Not zuccariniana for sure. Not varieaculeata either I think, central spines wrong. Probably something to do with mystax, but it seems to lack both ventrals and radial spines, but could it be sartori? It is a variable plant, which can have no central spines, and only 3-7 radial spines. The length of spines also can vary a lot, radials from 0.5mm to 8mmThe spines on this plant could be just radials. But I am by no means sure about this suggestion, as I am going by the book descriptions. However, the photo on P780 of Reppenhagen shows a plant with very short spines, which looks quite similar to Maurillo's. My own plant of sartorii is an offset of an original plant, which I understand was collected by Felix Oteroi, without field number, and has longer spines. _________________ Chris43, moderator
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:10 pm | |
| The below plant is M.magnimamma Rog 116 ( zuccariniana ). This plant is in Series Magnimamma. The plant you have is in Series Polyedrae |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:26 pm | |
| This I, believe, is M. mystax. In Pilbeam it does says ' The well developed central spine, WHEN PRESENT ' I take this to mean that you can find this species without the central spine. It looks a bit like a plant I use to have that Reppenhagen called M.multiseta and which falls under M.mystax, but you can also find M.multiseta has a red / pink flowered M.karwinskiana. M.mystax JLH 011105 M.karwinskiana ( multiseta ) |
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ento
Number of posts : 125 Age : 71 Location : Vado Ligure - Italy Registration date : 2009-12-26
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:40 pm | |
| Multiseta Repp 831 | |
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maurillio
Number of posts : 2988 Age : 70 Location : Modena - Italia Registration date : 2009-12-20
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:01 am | |
| great ento..... your REP831 is really persuasive. i was in standby because i wanted to know better the work about m.multiseta in "non familiar mammillarias" but i have found other photo of REP831 similar to your and mine. thank you | |
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ento
Number of posts : 125 Age : 71 Location : Vado Ligure - Italy Registration date : 2009-12-26
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:48 pm | |
| zuccariniana repp 1240 | |
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maurillio
Number of posts : 2988 Age : 70 Location : Modena - Italia Registration date : 2009-12-20
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:59 pm | |
| rep 1240 รจ mammillaria zuccariniana!!!! | |
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ento
Number of posts : 125 Age : 71 Location : Vado Ligure - Italy Registration date : 2009-12-26
| Subject: Re: m.zuccariniana? Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| zuccariniana repp 1240 | |
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