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PostSubject: Two monsters flowering.   Two monsters flowering. Icon_minitimeSun Apr 12, 2009 9:21 pm

Today they were in bloom this bocasana Mammillaria cv. Fred and this other that I do not know his name.

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PostSubject: Re: Two monsters flowering.   Two monsters flowering. Icon_minitimeMon Apr 13, 2009 12:36 pm

Hi Vicent,

your second plant could the montrose form of M.painteri which you some times see, but I am not to sure. They are really ugly plants which would not find space in my collection, but then I will not grow cristates or, has far as possilbe, grafts.
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PostSubject: Re: Two monsters flowering.   Two monsters flowering. Icon_minitimeMon Apr 13, 2009 3:32 pm

Thank you for the identification, Tam.
The monsters also have their hearts I love you .
This monstrous, acquired in ELK is marketed as Echinopsis.

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http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/ECHINOPSIS/Echinopsis_sp/Echinopsis_sp_mostruosa_cristata/Echinopsis_sp_forma_mostruosa_cristata.htm

But I think it is Mammillaria. His spine is hooked.
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PostSubject: Re: Two monsters flowering.   Two monsters flowering. Icon_minitimeTue Apr 14, 2009 2:06 pm

Cool These monsters look like hairless cats, the Sphynx.
But there are very hairy monstersas the cv. "Oruga blanca" developed in a town near Valencia, Catadau, by Guy Xhonneux.
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PostSubject: Re: Two monsters flowering.   Two monsters flowering. Icon_minitimeTue Apr 14, 2009 3:34 pm

Now this looks more interesting.
I have seen pictures of number of these different clones of gracilis such has petit joeux, roi baudoin, belleavista, gracitulis, and the other clone of oruga blanca. I have been trying to find out where to get these from but have never been able to find out whether these are available from a nursery.
Were did you get your from and do you have a contact you could recommed.
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PostSubject: Re: Two monsters flowering.   Two monsters flowering. Icon_minitimeTue Apr 14, 2009 6:07 pm

Tam, the example that shows of the cultivar "Oruga blanca" is the first clone, which were very few copies.

The clone that was marketed was this:

[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_oruga_blanca_01_2.jpg [/ img]

The other day I was looking for a couple of "Oruga blanca" to the nursery of Catadau for a friend and I were very few other mixed cactus. Guy Xhonneux moved to Colombia years ago and Catadau stopped proucir these cultivars.

I was told that these were two cactus "Oruga blanca" but I have not yet seen the flower.

[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_oruga_blanca_PC_1.jpg [/ img]

The cultivar "Roi Baudoin" has long central spines and pink flowers.
Is much larger. I did not see any copies in Catadau.

[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mamm03_2.jpg [/ img]

[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_Roi_Baudoin_07_1.jpg [/ img]

The cultivar "petit joeux" is smaller:

[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_cv_petit_joeux_1.jpg [/ img]

With regard the cultivar "Bellavista," I do not know to distinguish it from the "Arizona snow cup"

[img]http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_bellavista_07_1.jpg [/ img]

They also had, at the time, other cultivars, and the cultivar "Catadau" cv "Osito blanco" and others, but no longer have any.

Send me your postal address and, if I have any "Oruga blanca" as I got to my friend, I send you it.
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PostSubject: Re: Two monsters flowering.   Two monsters flowering. Icon_minitimeWed Apr 15, 2009 12:09 pm

Give me an E-mail on mccormac@btconnet.com and we can talk. I have lots of spare documents seedlings and perhaps we can exchange some.

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