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 M. haageana ssp schmolii?

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PostSubject: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeWed Oct 19, 2022 6:31 pm

Hi, this plant finally is flowering after many years. Looking some pictures in Internet, I think it could be this one. Am I right? M. haageana ssp schmolii? 13_1n120
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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeFri Oct 21, 2022 11:30 am

I hink that it certainly looks like M. haageana, but ssp. schmollii is a form that offsets, which your plant does not appear to be doing. Its a very variable species, with a number of subspecies names given to it, but many have been discarded. I have seen these plants in habitat and formed the view that this species is quite variable even within a specific population.

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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeFri Oct 21, 2022 4:44 pm

Thank you very much, Chris43. What do you mean by "that offsets".
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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeFri Oct 21, 2022 8:34 pm

Offsets are what I call new heads, usually from the base of a [lant, so that it forms clumps of "heads". Some people call them "pups".

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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeSat Oct 22, 2022 4:52 pm

Thank you very much for the explanation. One feature that make me doubt about the species is that these plantas are more elongated that other M. haageana that I have from different locations, which are more spherical. Another one is that this plant is flowering after many years, while the other varieties of M. haageana blossom every year and since they have few years.
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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeThu Oct 27, 2022 1:36 am

I wonder if it might be a variety of m. haageana subsp. elegans.
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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeThu Oct 27, 2022 8:45 pm

Thank you very much, Delandmo. This is another clone from the original plant. It is more elongated.M. haageana ssp schmolii? Mammil10
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PostSubject: Another photos   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeThu Nov 10, 2022 5:02 pm

Hi, I just found these photos of the original plant.
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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 23, 2023 3:22 pm

Hi, Chris43. I recently found this plant. According to your information, I think this could be the M. haageana schmollii. Am I correct?M. haageana ssp schmolii? Mammil11
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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 23, 2023 5:53 pm

Yes that would appear to be an offsetting form of M. haageana. I think that ssp. schmollii would be approrpriate.

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PostSubject: Re: M. haageana ssp schmolii?   M. haageana ssp schmolii? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 23, 2023 6:08 pm

Thank you very much.
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