2 new ones need ID

Subject: 2 new ones need ID Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:53 am

Just got these 2 today and am not certain as to their ids
Here is Cactus 1

Thanks

Richard

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:56 am

gdlwyverex wrote:: Just got these 2 today and am not certain as to their ids
Here is Cactus 1

Just noticed that it has a pup growing out of it's side

Thanks

Richard

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:50 am

I think that this one is one of the many forms of M. haageana

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Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:37 am

Chris43 wrote:: I think that this one is one of the many forms of M. haageana

Like Mammillaria haageana ssp elegans?

Thanks

Richard

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:15 pm

Hey Richard

in my opinion it really looks like Mammillaria elegans.
Mam. haageana and Mam. conspicua should have less radial spines.

Regards Jonathan

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:12 pm

mammillariamaniac wrote:: Hey Richard

in my opinion it really looks like Mammillaria elegans.
Mam. haageana and Mam. conspicua should have less radial spines.

Regards Jonathan

Are you talking about the mammillaria elegans which is a synonim for Mammillaria geminispina

as opposed to the elegans which is part of the haageana group?

Richard

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:23 pm

I am talking about Mammillaria elegans De Candolle which is part of the Elegans-Group (or Haageana-Group what ever you wanna call it) and belongs to the series supertextae.

The only synonym of Mam. geminispina starting with e that I know of is Mammillaria eburnea Miquel.

If you wanna learn more about the names here some helpful links:

https://mammillaria.forumotion.net/t449-mammillaria-names
www.mammillaria.eu/loseblattsammlung/GesamtregisterLBS1991-2015.pdf

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:46 pm

mammillariamaniac wrote:: I am talking about Mammillaria elegans De Candolle which is part of the Elegans-Group (or Haageana-Group what ever you wanna call it) and belongs to the series supertextae.

The only synonym of Mam. geminispina starting with e that I know of is Mammillaria eburnea Miquel.

If you wanna learn more about the names here some helpful links:

https://mammillaria.forumotion.net/t449-mammillaria-names
www.mammillaria.eu/loseblattsammlung/GesamtregisterLBS1991-2015.pdf

Glad I asked. My confusion came from http://www.llifle.com/Encyclopedia/CACTI/Family/Cactaceae/13998/Mammillaria_elegans

Thank you

Richard

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:06 pm

It doesn't seem like a good idea to consult that site ....
If you see, there are often my critical notes ...

Subject: Re: 2 new ones need ID Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am

That's the problem with using old names, which have been put into synonomy with validly named species. Even M.elegans is now just a form of M. haageana.

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