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PostSubject: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeFri Jun 17, 2011 9:53 am

Can you help me to put a name on this beautiful Mammillaria? It was a good surprise to me when it bloomed:-)

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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeSat Jun 18, 2011 12:26 pm

The flower is typical of several species in the Ancistracanthae - and although the spines aren't fully shown in the photo, it could be M. blossfeldiana. There are several other contenders, but with an overall yellowish lookto the plant and dark hooked centrals, that would be my first guess. If you can show the spines more clearly it would help to be more definite.

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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeSat Jun 18, 2011 1:08 pm

many tanks Chris, I'll take a photo of the spines:-)
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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeMon Jun 20, 2011 7:10 pm

Hi!

Yes is a beautiful Ancistro but is not M. blossfeldiana, the flowers and the spines(i don't see very good in the photo) are very different...

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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeMon Jun 20, 2011 8:29 pm

Hi, I took some more photos of the plant, I hope it helps Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeMon Jun 20, 2011 9:34 pm

The plant now shown looks a lot taller than is typical for M. blossfeldiana, although the spination is similar.

My initial suggestion was made on the basis that:

Pink flowers with some degree of white edges, even very small, are found in M. blossfeldiana, boolii, insularis, schumannii ?, sheldonii, and tetrancistra.

Pink flowers without any hint of white edges are found in M. grahamii, mazatlanensis, thornberi, wrightii.

Now it seemed to me that it is not boolii, insularis or schumannii, and unlikely to be sheldonii or tetrancistra. This left blossfeldiana, although the flower is not typical of blossfeldiana when we imagine it as a very stripy looking flower. But I have seen forms of blossfeldiana which have flowers in which the pink central stripe is almost the complete width of the flower.

But I'd welcome other views, as I am by no means certain!


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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeTue Jun 21, 2011 1:03 pm

The body looks very dioica like, but I've not seen dioica flowers has deep pink has those.

For interest I had this come into flower today...

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M.sheldonii ( gueldemanniana guircobensis ) Lau 081, Alamos, Guirocaba, Sonora.
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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 9:51 am

That's a very usefull lesson on Ancistracanthae identification, Chris, thank you. I would lean more in favour of M. sheldonii, but it's just a feeling.

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PostSubject: Re: A beautiful flower with no name   A beautiful flower with no name Icon_minitimeMon Jun 27, 2011 4:35 pm

Tanks Chris and Tam:-) Reading all that información, I realize that I have to learn a lot...as Jfabiao says, it's a very usefull lesson, many tanks:-)

Olá Z:-)
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