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PostSubject: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 3:48 pm

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i thoght m.zuccariniana, but axils with bristels??
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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2010 4:57 pm

m.varieaculeata?
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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2010 8:55 pm

To me belongs to m. mistax group.
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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2010 10:16 pm

Not zuccariniana for sure. Not varieaculeata either I think, central spines wrong.
Probably something to do with mystax, but it seems to lack both ventrals and radial spines, but could it be sartori? It is a variable plant, which can have no central spines, and only 3-7 radial spines. The length of spines also can vary a lot, radials from 0.5mm to 8mmThe spines on this plant could be just radials. But I am by no means sure about this suggestion, as I am going by the book descriptions. However, the photo on P780 of Reppenhagen shows a plant with very short spines, which looks quite similar to Maurillo's.

My own plant of sartorii is an offset of an original plant, which I understand was collected by Felix Oteroi, without field number, and has longer spines.

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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 6:10 pm

The below plant is M.magnimamma Rog 116 ( zuccariniana ). This plant is in Series Magnimamma. The plant you have is in Series Polyedrae

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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 6:26 pm

This I, believe, is M. mystax. In Pilbeam it does says ' The well developed central spine, WHEN PRESENT ' I take this to mean that you can find this species without the central spine. It looks a bit like a plant I use to have that Reppenhagen called M.multiseta and which falls under M.mystax, but you can also find M.multiseta has a red / pink flowered M.karwinskiana.

M.mystax JLH 011105

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M.karwinskiana ( multiseta )

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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeTue Jan 19, 2010 9:40 pm

Multiseta Repp 831

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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 8:01 am

great ento.....
your REP831 is really persuasive.
i was in standby because i wanted to know better the work about m.multiseta in "non familiar mammillarias"
but i have found other photo of REP831 similar to your and mine.
thank you
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PostSubject: Re: m.zuccariniana?   m.zuccariniana? Icon_minitimeThu Mar 04, 2010 8:59 pm

rep 1240 รจ mammillaria zuccariniana!!!!
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