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Vbueno
Number of posts: 13
Age: 55
Location: Valencia, Spain
Registration date: 2009-04-07
 |  Subject: Two monsters flowering. Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:21 pm | |
| Today they were in bloom this bocasana Mammillaria cv. Fred and this other that I do not know his name.   Greetings Vicent |
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Tam
Number of posts: 410
Location: Rothesay, Isle of Bute, Scotland
Registration date: 2008-11-12
| | Subject: Re: Two monsters flowering. Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:36 pm | |
| Hi Vicent,
your second plant could the montrose form of M.painteri which you some times see, but I am not to sure. They are really ugly plants which would not find space in my collection, but then I will not grow cristates or, has far as possilbe, grafts. |
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Vbueno
Number of posts: 13
Age: 55
Location: Valencia, Spain
Registration date: 2009-04-07
| | Subject: Re: Two monsters flowering. Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:32 pm | |
| Thank you for the identification, Tam. The monsters also have their hearts  . This monstrous, acquired in ELK is marketed as Echinopsis.  http://www.cactus-art.biz/schede/ECHINOPSIS/Echinopsis_sp/Echinopsis_sp_mostruosa_cristata/Echinopsis_sp_forma_mostruosa_cristata.htm But I think it is Mammillaria. His spine is hooked.  |
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Chris43
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Number of posts: 997
Age: 68
Location: Amersham, UK
Registration date: 2008-07-16
| | Subject: Re: Two monsters flowering. Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:46 pm | |
| I suppose someone loves them...?? 
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Vbueno
Number of posts: 13
Age: 55
Location: Valencia, Spain
Registration date: 2009-04-07
| | Subject: Re: Two monsters flowering. Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:06 pm | |
|  These monsters look like hairless cats, the Sphynx. But there are very hairy monstersas the cv. "Oruga blanca" developed in a town near Valencia, Catadau, by Guy Xhonneux.  |
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Tam
Number of posts: 410
Location: Rothesay, Isle of Bute, Scotland
Registration date: 2008-11-12
| | Subject: Re: Two monsters flowering. Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:34 pm | |
| Now this looks more interesting.
I have seen pictures of number of these different clones of gracilis such has petit joeux, roi baudoin, belleavista, gracitulis, and the other clone of oruga blanca. I have been trying to find out where to get these from but have never been able to find out whether these are available from a nursery.
Were did you get your from and do you have a contact you could recommed. |
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Vbueno
Number of posts: 13
Age: 55
Location: Valencia, Spain
Registration date: 2009-04-07
| | Subject: Re: Two monsters flowering. Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:07 pm | |
| Tam, the example that shows of the cultivar "Oruga blanca" is the first clone, which were very few copies.
The clone that was marketed was this:
[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_oruga_blanca_01_2.jpg [/ img]
The other day I was looking for a couple of "Oruga blanca" to the nursery of Catadau for a friend and I were very few other mixed cactus. Guy Xhonneux moved to Colombia years ago and Catadau stopped proucir these cultivars.
I was told that these were two cactus "Oruga blanca" but I have not yet seen the flower.
[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_oruga_blanca_PC_1.jpg [/ img]
The cultivar "Roi Baudoin" has long central spines and pink flowers.
Is much larger. I did not see any copies in Catadau.
[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mamm03_2.jpg [/ img]
[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_Roi_Baudoin_07_1.jpg [/ img]
The cultivar "petit joeux" is smaller:
[img] http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_cv_petit_joeux_1.jpg [/ img]
With regard the cultivar "Bellavista," I do not know to distinguish it from the "Arizona snow cup"
[img]http://www.cactuscenterclub.com/phpBB2/userpix/18_Mammillaria_vetula_ssp_gracilis_cv_bellavista_07_1.jpg [/ img]
They also had, at the time, other cultivars, and the cultivar "Catadau" cv "Osito blanco" and others, but no longer have any. | | | |
Send me your postal address and, if I have any "Oruga blanca" as I got to my friend, I send you it.
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Tam
Number of posts: 410
Location: Rothesay, Isle of Bute, Scotland
Registration date: 2008-11-12
| | Subject: Re: Two monsters flowering. Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:09 pm | |
| Give me an E-mail on mccormac@btconnet.com and we can talk. I have lots of spare documents seedlings and perhaps we can exchange some.
Yours, Tam |
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