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PostSubject: M. webbiana and M. schilinskyana   Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:27 pm

Recently I bought these Mamm's on ebay, because these are very old names and I was somewhat intrigued about these plants.
Normally I do not buy anything without a fieldnumber, but the price was very reasonable.
Has anyone heard about these names or have more information? A google search didn't give me satisfaction.

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PostSubject: Re: M. webbiana and M. schilinskyana   Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:09 pm

Hello Hugo,
over M. schylinskiana I could bring only the following in experience.
Offered already once from Kakteen Uhlig under the number U 4446. The year is not known to me unfortunately.
Otherwise, no further information are available by me about both names.
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PostSubject: Re: M. webbiana and M. schilinskyana   Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:40 pm

I have a M. schilinskiana that I grew from Koehres seed in 1992. I wrote a short article for the Mammillaria Society Journal a year or so ago, in which I described my plant:

Body mid green; tubercles angled, hairs and bristles in axils; 2-3 central spines, 12-18mm, often just 2, slightly curved, horn coloured with darker tips; 1-2-4-6 radial spines, very short, 2-5mm long. Flowers are pink, small, not unlike M. variaculeata in size, although as yet this plant has not flowered with the profusion that M. variaculeata or indeed M. mystax does.

As you will understand, I believe that this plant belongs in the M. mystax species grouping. Whether it really is distinct I don't know. I had a couple of replies that supported this view.

Here's a photo of my plant:



As far as webbiana is concerned, I have seen reference to this name as M. polythele v. webbiana. It is however a very old name having been described by Lemaire in Cact. Nov. Gen. et Sp. (1839) 45, with its habitat simply described as Mexico. I don't have access to the original description, so the connection to polythele is purely because it occurs as such on an Australian seed list.

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PostSubject: Re: M. webbiana and M. schilinskyana   Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:14 pm

Thanks ,Chris and Holger for this usefull information.

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PostSubject: Re: M. webbiana and M. schilinskyana   Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:49 am

Yesterday I received at last the parcel with schilinskyana and webbiana.
M. schilinskiana looks here more like a stylothelae and is very similar with M. mathildae:



I never saw a description of it so I don't know if Chris has the right one or me. Sorry for the bad quality of the picture.

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PostSubject: Re: M. webbiana and M. schilinskyana   Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:51 am

M. webbiana looks to M. hastifera and belongs more in the gigantea group, but again, never saw a description:



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