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Gabus

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PostSubject: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeThu Apr 18, 2013 6:51 pm

Hi,

I would like to have this Mammillarias identified...

What do you think they could be?

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Thanks!

Best regards, G
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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeThu Apr 18, 2013 9:21 pm

Hi G,
These are my suggestions, by no means all positive.

1. Probably a young muehlenpfordtii.
2. Possibily rhodantha.
3. No real call.
4. Crinita ssp. wildii.
5. Albiflora.
6. Again no real call. Maybe carmenae. Photo not showing the whole plant.
7. Matudae.


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Gabus

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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeThu Apr 18, 2013 11:08 pm

Thanks delandmo! Nice suggestions.

5 was sold as a M. Duweii (no central spine)

What do you think about this one?
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It's a 2010 picture, now its almost the double, about 11 cm wide x 25 cm tall.

Tomorrow i'm going to take more detailed pics Smile

Thanks again.

G.
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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeFri Apr 19, 2013 10:36 am

Hi,
My suggestions of your plants are:
1. haageana
2. possibly rhodantha or more likely a form of discolour
3. not sure buy it reminds me of guerreronis with its downwards pointing central spines.
4. vertainly a crinitia form, could be widlii but quite a lot are very similar,hence the Fitz-Maurices merging many names under crinita.
5. definitely duwei, you can see the plumose radial spines, and that flower is very much duwei (or nana if you prefer).
6. carmenae or lauii, probably a hybrid as it is white spined (lauii) but taller growing (carmenae).
7. matudae

and your last photo is of a M. rhodantha. The tubercle shape of your plant looks quite M. polythele -like, but I think it would class as M. rhodantha. There used to be a form known as v. quadrispina, which looked as though it shared some characteristics of M. polythele. I understand that where these two species overlap, there are forms which are difficult to place in one species or the other.

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Gabus

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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeFri Apr 19, 2013 4:53 pm

Thanks Chris for your suggestions.

Btw, Interesting personal website, travels and personal collection.

Regards
G
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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSat Apr 20, 2013 12:42 am

As promised, newer pics and a addition:

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Some M for ID.- 111col10

3 - closer look // guerreronis?
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9 - new one // Sold as Mammillaria bombycina (I have a bombycina and it looks totally different)
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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSat Apr 20, 2013 5:13 pm

1. could be haageana, but looks a little more like columbiana now in that photo.
2. rhodantha, especially since on the plant on the left, I think there is the odd hook to a central spine, which happens with that species sometimes.
3. Seriously doubting my guerreronis suggestion now. But not able to suggest another yet. I'll work on it!
9. certainly bombycina, but not typical, it looks a bit sick, discoloration on some tubercles, and maybe some signs of spider mite damage. But bombycina is a very variable species. I have several, one smaller headed, tight spination, dark central spines; another larger headed, yellow spines; another that seems still to remain solitary; and another that represents the transition of bombycina to perezdelarosae, suggesting that perezdelarosae is indeed a subspecies of bombycina.

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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSun Apr 21, 2013 1:06 am

That was really helpful.

Thanks Chris,

Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSun Apr 21, 2013 4:30 pm

Number 3 could be Mammillaria meyranii var michoacana

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or Mammillaria meyranii ML 48

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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSun Apr 21, 2013 7:52 pm

You could be right there, Maurillio. That ssp. michoacana is one that has caused quite a lot of confusion, as it has many similarities with M. guerreronis. Of course, they are related, but the spines on ssp. michoacana are different certainly, and the flower less brown-red.
Well done!

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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeTue Apr 23, 2013 4:45 am

Thanks again.
Let's wait until it blooms.

Cheers! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 4:27 am

Hello again. I have another one to id.:

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Maybe crinita?

Thanks!

Best regards

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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 5:01 pm

Well, it is one of the Stylothelae, and could be crinita, but I can't be sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Some M for ID.-   Some M for ID.- Icon_minitimeSun Jun 23, 2013 6:36 pm

Thanks Chris. They seems to be all the same to meĀ Smile
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