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PostSubject: 2 Mammillaria   2 Mammillaria Icon_minitimeFri Jan 04, 2013 7:24 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Mammillaria   2 Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Jan 07, 2013 11:14 am

Hi,
The first looks like two young seedlings of M. formosa, maybe ssp. pseudocrucigera, but it is too early to tell.
The second is not sure, but perhaps a form of M. haageana or another of those Supertexta series plants.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Mammillaria   2 Mammillaria Icon_minitimeTue Jan 08, 2013 10:07 pm

for the second plant i think that a good suggestion could be Mammillaria ritteriana.
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thank uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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PostSubject: Re: 2 Mammillaria   2 Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2013 5:50 pm

what do you think about M. lanigera for the first plant?

this is my m.lanigera ML 358 from "one pound mammillaria".....

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Mammillaria   2 Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2013 6:17 pm

Nice comparison, Maurillio, but I think it is still too early to draw conclusions, as both your plant and the original are rather young ones. Most of my M. haageana / albilanata seedlings have looked pretty simlar to M. formosa seedlings at 1-2 yrs.

I remember being told once that the appearnce of seedlings gave insight into the evolutionary links between species. Now according to the classifications that we work with, M. albilanata and M. formosa are in different groups. However, according to DNA analysis, these two groups do have a common ancestor, which is more recent than (say) the separation of species such as M. elongata.

But I think we must wait.

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PostSubject: Re: 2 Mammillaria   2 Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Feb 11, 2013 6:50 pm

""""""""but I think it is still too early to draw conclusions""""


I completely agree with you.
my old picture was similar to that proposed and so i have published, but already now the plant is very different.

aspettiamo....
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