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PostSubject: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeSun Dec 09, 2012 4:44 pm

Can you help me identify ... just found in a garden center.

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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeSun Dec 09, 2012 5:09 pm

could it be mammillaria jaliscana?
4/6 reddish central, the lowest hooked?
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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeSun Dec 09, 2012 6:58 pm

Indeed, it could be that. Thank you maurillio Wink
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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 5:29 am

Maybe it's just my wonky eyes here but that one looks Parodia to me!
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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 8:32 am

Another photo. Diameter: 7cm Height: 4cm

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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 12:04 pm

Mam.moelleriana!
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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 12:07 pm

Can you take a close look between the tubercles to see if there are axils at the base between them? If so, then definitely a Mamm and not a Parodia.

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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 3:34 pm

Yes Chris, there are axils between the tubercles
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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 4:54 pm

OK, then I'll go with Walter in suggesting M. moelleriana.

From counting spines alone, it could probably be either moelleriana or jaliscana, but the appearnce of the plant is much more moelleriana.

One characteristic to look at is how the spines emerge at the apex of the plant. M. moelleriana is usually very crowded with young tubercles and their spines, giving a really spiny appearance to the crown of the plant. M. jaliscana tends to be more open there, and whiter, as the central spines emerge a little later as the plant grows.

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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 5:17 pm

i remembered m.moelleriana with stronger central spines, but this piture seems to confirm
your suggestion...

mammillaria moelleriana lau 1334

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PostSubject: Re: ID Mammillaria   ID Mammillaria Icon_minitimeMon Dec 10, 2012 7:24 pm

Thank you for all this information.
Beautiful flowering Maurillio!!!
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