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PostSubject: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeSun Mar 25, 2012 2:15 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeSun Mar 25, 2012 5:04 pm

Aaah..the pink flowered plant! This could be natural or a hybrid between M. lauii and M. carmenae. There is a lot of confusion about the origins, but ther eis no doubt it makes a very pretty plant.

At the CACTUS conference organised by ARIDES in France in 2004, Dr Lau gave a presentation. Among his topics, he mentioned M. laui and M. carmenae.

The resume of this is quoted on the Arides website as:

"Dr. LAU among others told us a story about a collection of seeds carried out long ago of Mammillaria carmenae. Inadvertently he mixed with them a few seeds of Mammillaria lauii whose flowers are pink. While these two Cacti are very similar, this small misunderstanding generated an error which over the years has led many of us to collect the two variants of Mammillaria carmenae, one with a cream flower and the other with pink flowers. Dr. LAU confirmed to us that if we are in error, we need to properly name our plants, Mammillaria carmenae for those with cream flowers and Mammillaria lauii for those flowers with pink flowers."

However, I think there are now a lot of hybrids available, and so the picture is very confused.

My advice now would be to name any pink flowers plant with spines like M. carmenae as M. laui x carmenae. I am not aware of any field collections of proper M. carmenae plants with pink flowers.

It is possible that they exist, as I know that M. elongata has a natural pink flowered form, as do other species.


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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeWed Mar 28, 2012 10:15 am

Ohhhh, really interesting !!! Thank u !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeSun Jun 10, 2012 9:33 am

ohhh so pretty ! this tiny plant flowering are so beautiful !
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeTue May 07, 2013 4:40 am

Mammillaria carmenae C360_211[img]Mammillaria carmenae C360_212[/img]
It's mine.
The color of the flowers are not the same one.
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeWed May 08, 2013 8:59 pm

The plant is also different, yours is M. laui.

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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2013 7:35 am

this is Mammillaria carmenae cv. brunispina
[img]Mammillaria carmenae Mammil16[/img]

this is Mammillaria carmenae x laui hybr.
[img]Mammillaria carmenae Mammil17[/img]

[img]Mammillaria carmenae Mammil18[/img]


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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeMon May 13, 2013 6:20 pm

Sorry, but your last photo shows M. carmenae (very nice plant), and not M. laui. Could it be that some labels have been changed in your collection.?

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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2013 2:15 am

to woltertenhoeve:
Thank you for reminding me.
i have a mistake stuck the label.
thank you very much.
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PostSubject: Re: Mammillaria carmenae   Mammillaria carmenae Icon_minitimeTue May 14, 2013 7:14 pm

Correction to my previous message: the first photo is indeed M. carmenae brunispina (very nice plant), the second and third photo (yesterday I did not have these on my screen) are M. laui or, perhaps as your photos state, a M. carmenae x laui hybrid (although it looks as if there is much more laui blood in them than carmenae blood).

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