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PostSubject: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:05 pm

Hy!

Hardy Escobaria vivipara

This plant is one of my favorite, is planted in my rockgarden: the last winter in a morning was very cold -30 but the plant was coverd by snow.

Spring flowers!



Here's the plant 2 weks ago (rain then ice - moust dangeros, or defrost and the next day frost, but the plant is alive and this spring i hope to see flowers again):



Here is the plant in summer:



And yesterday snow covered:



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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:45 am

Good morning punker.
What a hard life! Very Happy
Thank you for these pictures.
It's very interesting to see different aspects of a plant through seasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:42 am

Good morning!

You can say: What a hard life! Very Happy

I am Happy you like

This plants are adapted to this conditions.

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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:54 pm

This plants it´s a Neobessea, not Escobaria!
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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:58 pm

Hy!...you think wrong!!!

First is NOT Neobessea is Neobesseya you forget the Y

The genus Neobesseya is now considered part of Escobaria. This genus is named for C. E. Bessey, from the University of Nebraska, at the end of the 19th century.

Escobaria vivipara Synonyms:

* Escobaria vivipara ( Basionym: Cactus viviparus Nuttall, Cat. Pl. Upper Louisiana, no. 22. 1813, Mammillaria vivipara,Echinocactus viviparus,
* Escobaria neo-mexicana (Coryphantha vivipara var. neo-mexicana, Cactus radiosus var. neo-mexicanus, Mammillaria radiosa var. neo-mexicana, Coryphantha radiosa var. neo-mexicana, Cactus neo-mexicanus, Mammillaria vivipara var. neo-mexicana, Mammillaria neo-mexicana, Escobaria vivipara var. neo-mexicana, Coryphantha neo-mexicana,)
* Escobaria vivipara var. radiosa (Escobaria radiosa, Neomammillaria radiosa, Mammillaria radiosa, , Coryphantha radiosa, Coryphantha vivipara var. radiosa,Cactus radiosus, Echinocactus radiosus, Mammillaria vivipara var. radiosa)
* Escobaria vivipara var. rosea (Coryphantha rosea, Coryphantha vivipara var. rosea, Coryphantha vivipara var. kaibabensis,
* Escobaria vivipara var. arizonica (Engelmann) W. T. Marshall
(Mammillaria arizonica, Mammillaria vivipara var. arizonica, Coryphantha vivipara var. arizonica, Mammillaria radiosa var. arizonica, Escobaria arizonica, Coryphantha arizonica, Cactus radiosus var. arizonicus )
* Escobaria vivipara var. kaibabensis (C. vivipara var. kaibabensis)
* Escobaria vivipara var. fragrans (Coryphantha fragrans)
* Escobaria vivipara var. bisbeeana (Coryphantha bisbeeana, Escobaria bisbeeana, Coryphantha vivipara var. bisbeeana)
* Escobaria vivipara var. buoflama (Coryphantha vivipara var. buoflama)
* Escobaria vivipara var. columnaris (Coryphantha columnaris)
* Escobaria vivipara var. marstonii (Coryphantha missouriensis var. marstonii)
* Escobaria vivipara var. oklahomensis (Coryphantha oklahomensis)

I think the plant you refere is Neobesseya missouriensis synonym of Escobaria missouriensis also a hardy plant, my plant is from Mesa Garden seeds,here is the list:

http://www.mesagarden.com/re2010.html

The list of Neobesseya...considered part of Escobaria:

Neobesseya asperispina synonym of Escobaria missouriensis var. asperispina
Neobesseya cubensis synonym of Escobaria cubensis
Neobesseya missouriensis synonym of Escobaria missouriensis
Neobesseya muehlbaueriana synonym of Escobaria emskoetteriana
Neobesseya notesteinii synonym of Escobaria missouriensis
Neobesseya roseiflora synonym of Escobaria missouriensis
Neobesseya similis synonym of Escobaria missouriensis
Neobesseya wissmannii synonym of Escobaria missouriensis
Neobesseya zilziana synonym of Escobaria zilziana

And Neobesseya macdougallii synonym of Ortegocactus macdougallii (Edward Alexander)

Regards!

p.s: Escobaria vivipara was NEVER! included in the genus Neobesseya.



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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:09 pm

Escobaria is a lovely plant, and is so variable. This has given rise to all the names which Punker has listed. It can be found from Arizona (and probably into Mexico) right up into Canada.
I think the form known as v. bisbeeana is one of the nicest, as it has really stout white spines. In all forms the flowers tend to be similar, which is one of the main reasons for their combination.
Neobesseya contained 13 species at one time (Britton and Rose), which have all now been merged with other genera. It had become a lumping ground for some relatively difficult to categorise plants, but as more commonalities became understood, so the differences seemed less significant.

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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:47 pm

Hy Chris!

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I think the form known as v. bisbeeana is one of the nicest

I agree with you

Happy new year to you and to everyone on Mammillaria forum
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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:16 pm

Hi cacti lovers! cheers

This plant should be hardy at least up to -35 C, but it depends on the stock origin. Even not covered with much snow, it is from dry locations. Has to be already compressed and dehydrated when cold begins, in November typically.

This is my photo from a native location in Southern Alberta, Canada. I also transferred some plants into my back yard last year.
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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:50 pm

And some more photos of the same species at another location in Alberta. All were fond at sloped eroded hills around rivers.



Please mention two small seedlings above the big plant at the second picture.
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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:10 pm

Welcome to the Forum, and it is great to see some more Escobarias!

I've just been out to give a talk about plants I have seen in Southern Arizona, and I had seen a number of forms of E. vivpara, so slides of these were part of the talk.

I did know they grew in Canada, but have never seen photos of them - truly a species that defies all rules, with regard to distribution and hardiness.

Wonderful!

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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:14 am


One more photo. Wintering of E. vivipara, one of my outdoor plants. Well, it is still deep winter here in Calgary. Will be no signs of growth or expending until May.
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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:41 pm

Hello all,

Your plants look awesome punker and agrippa!
Seeing photos of them growing in the wild in Canada is really a privilege- thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:18 pm

Hello,

Today two of my Escobarias finally emerged from under the melting snow (this winter they were covered by 50 cms of snow but before that they endured quite a few cold rainfalls in December and even January).
Here is what they look like.
Escobaria vivipara
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34150978@N08/6810822138/in/photostream/lightbox/
and Escobaria vivipara var bisbeeana
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34150978@N08/6810822110/in/photostream/lightbox/
I am thrilled to see them doing well.

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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:00 pm

It is amazing to see the v. bisbeeana in such conditions and doing well, considering it lives in Southern Arizona.

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PostSubject: Re: Hardy Escobaria vivipara   Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:51 am

An year later, the same date, in the middle of June, one of most northern localities - Drumheller. First sunny day after some rainy ones and the bloom begun.










This specimen above has strange, narrow flower petals but it is blooming in full.
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